Check John Ray’s A scripture blog, where he (an avowed athiest) discusses certain doctrines and dogmas and applies his reason and knowledge.
Right now, he’s discussing trinitarism, or the doctrine of God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Ray maintains this is a pagan doctrine developed some years after the first church. He has some very thought provoking things to say, if one who believes in the Trinity dares. I’ve never really questioned this doctrine for myself and it is nice to have a critic with no obvious axe to grind.
I was raised to believe the trinitarian doctrine, but I have no particular allegiance to it and am open to, ah, strict originalism, if you will!
Ray’s posts on the nature of God and his relationship to the son of God and the apparent logical contradictions in the text have brought a few things to mind upon which I’d like his take.
First, I’m no scholar - I’ve read this and that and can think pretty clearly and there has been much I’ve read in the bible that contradicts what I’ve been taught by other christians. (for instance, the rapture and predestination).
If we posit God’s eternal nature, then we know all we need to know about predestination. Eternity, I believe, means ‘without time’. Not a long time, not forever, but NO TIME. For creatures whose entire existence is framed by time - by birth and death along its progression, in our language tenses, in and out of everything we experience - time. From an eternal perspective we can only surmise, there is no future, no past, no present.
CS Lewis put it best in The Screwtape Letters, (I cannot imagine Ray is unfamiliar with his works) “the present is full of eternal rays” and it is the present moment that we choose charity and grace toward others (among other virtues) or selfishness, etc (vices). There is then John the Baptist “The kingdom of God is at hand”. See also Mark 12:34 and Jesus said “the Kingdom of God is within you”, speaking to the Pharisees (luke 17.20).
But I digress.
My point above is that we must be cognizant of our limited perspective, if indeed we are dealing with an eternal God, especially so when attempting to dissect that presented by the prophets and apostles of old.
Regarding trinitarianism, what shall I make of the passages in Genesis where God refers “us”?
Gen 1.26: NKJV
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all[b] the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
What is meant by ‘our’ in this passage? I checked Biblegateway.com and looked at the other english version (RSV wasn’t there) - all said ‘our’.
This passage is immediately followed by references to God in the singular. What’s up with that?
I also wonder about the logical implications of our being made in God’s image and our awareness of three ‘parts’ of our being: spirit, flesh and soul. Or superego, id and ego, if you will. Here we have corrupted man (according to doctrine) with three ‘parts’ in being. We all know people who are dominated by the sensual, the intellectual or the spiritual. Indeed, we are a mix of the three as our intellects attempt to manage animal urges against spiritual mores.
So what of that? Would an uncorrupted man in the image of God detect these distinctions, or would they be balanced more seamlessly? Are we tripartite beings or is that idea untenable? It seems to be true according to my own inner life.
When I consider the implications of an eternal reality, it seems to me that it could be possible to have a Godhead which is God, but from our lowly perspectives can be seen as 3 different persons, while still being one person, one being, one entity.
Jesus was called ‘emmanuel’ which I’ve been led to believe means ‘God with us’ (if this is wrong I welcome correction), what of that?
For me, if I posit a being outside of time, it opens the door to understanding how scriptural references could not really mean what they appear to say, because of the time-perspective bias of the human writers of scripture.